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Old Apr 29, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30   #1
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Default Assasion fighting

I know factions has only been out for a few days now but already I'm stumped on how to get around this new enemy in pvp. I might not be seeing something here but every round where I go against an assasion I end up getting sredded by him. The shadow moves that alow them to jump and warp out of the way along with the chain attacks when they get in close seem unbreakable unless you get the first move off. If anyone out there has any ideas of how to stop this new threat then please let me know.
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52   #2
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Anything that you were useing vs warriors, really, and some that you weren't useing against anything. I think that Spirit Shackels is quite the effective counter, so is a regular surge/burn energy denial build. Burn them dry then throw Shackels up, and you could probably ruin their day.
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 05:10 PM // 17:10   #3
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Thanks, anyone else?
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 05:10 PM // 17:10   #4
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Thanks, anyone else?
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 06:22 PM // 18:22   #5
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this is the build i use can take them on 1v1 and own them but is let down by no self healing

mes/war
15 illusion
12 tatics

ineptitude(E)
clumsiness
riptose
deadly riptose
ethereal burden
and anything else that takes your fancy

cast them bottom to top for best results
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48   #6
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Distortion...gg
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Old May 04, 2006, 04:49 AM // 04:49   #7
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Nothing kicks an assassin in the balls like empathy, there is also a necro skill that speeds up a foes attack speed though makes them miss... they will love that .

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Ineptitude
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Crippling anguish + Conjure Phantasm + Images of Remorse

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Old May 04, 2006, 01:59 PM // 13:59   #8
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their healing skills are actually spells as well, slap backfire on them when their hp is low and watch them die^^
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Old May 04, 2006, 05:10 PM // 17:10   #9
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Nothing kicks an assassin in the balls like empathy, there is also a necro skill that speeds up a foes attack speed though makes them miss... they will love that
Off course, attack speed goes up, more dmg by empathy. Mix it with Price of Failure aaaaannnnd done. Over 60 dmg per swing under a great speed. What I love the most when I fight against them is when they bring Shadow form. They kill themself by one spell.
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Old May 04, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23   #10
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Basically it's the same strategy as fighting against Frenzy warriors.
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Old May 05, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18   #11
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Basically it's the same strategy as fighting against Frenzy warriors.
I'm sorry, but I've got to comment on this, because I have so much fun picking on Frenzy Wars. XD

When I see Frenzy happen, Inept+Clumsiness+Phantom Pain+Shatter Delusions

Under normal circumstances (and ideal, with timing both Clumsiness and Inept), it does approximately...145+85+Deep Wound+60...a total of 290, without the Deep Wound factored in.

Vs Frenzy, that number becomes...580, without the Deep Wound factored in.

Add in 100 Health taken away there (Deep Wound), and you've just hit that Frenzy War for close to 700 damage.

It's absolutely insane. It would kill a completely healthy Warrior instantly. =D
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Old May 05, 2006, 03:58 AM // 03:58   #12
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No one has acknowledged distortion yet...come on guys...
distortion...gg >.>
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Old May 05, 2006, 07:36 AM // 07:36   #13
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2 skills:

Spirit Shackles

Mindwrack

aka.

Shackwrack

End of story.
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Old May 05, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30   #14
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You can't stop loving distortion.
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Old May 05, 2006, 02:00 PM // 14:00   #15
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distortion under focused fire = no/less energy = dead.
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Old May 05, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58   #16
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For me .. i dont care about assassins much ...just got emapthy for them, put it on them each 20 seconds or so, keeping time and more spells to get casters as fast as possible but that may need a monk to keep you up until you get casters

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Old May 05, 2006, 10:30 PM // 22:30   #17
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Hmmm when sins double strike does it trigger skills like empathy and SS twice? If so you could knock of a sizeable chunk of health pretty quickly.
Especially is they use skills to increase hit rate!
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Old May 05, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36   #18
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Hmmm when sins double strike does it trigger skills like empathy and SS twice? If so you could knock of a sizeable chunk of health pretty quickly.
Especially is they use skills to increase hit rate!
You know what?

Yes for Dual attack
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Old May 06, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17   #19
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Who cares when you can render an entire class useless with one skill XD? Distortion one miss and BAM...end of combo end of sin.

Distortion for the win, goodbye to the sin.
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Old May 06, 2006, 01:24 AM // 01:24   #20
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Who cares when you can render an entire class useless with one skill XD? Distortion one miss and BAM...end of combo end of sin.

Distortion for the win, goodbye to the sin.
If they smart enough to bring Way of the Fox... ... naaaaaah
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